“ The more things that you have, the more things you have to deal with.”

What if the secret to a happier, freer life isn’t earning more—but needing less?

In this episode, adventurers and authors Cindy Ross and Todd Gladfelter join host Donna Ferris to share how they built a meaningful, debt-free life rooted in simplicity, nature, and gratitude. From hiking the Appalachian Trail to growing their own food and raising world-schooled kids, their journey proves that minimalism isn’t about deprivation—it’s about choice, freedom, and joy.

Their story reminds us that less can truly be more. Whether you’re longing to simplify your life, escape the cycle of debt, or rediscover what really matters, this episode will provide concrete ways to immediately improve your life.

To learn more about Cindy and Todd, and Cindy’s books and writing, please visit cindyrosstraveler.com

If you enjoyed this episode, you might want to listen to Episode 15 “Breaking Broadway Barriers with Madison Ferris” or Episode 34 “Fred Rogers and the Healing Power of Fatherhood with Art Carey.” Also, please consider subscribing to this podcast, leaving a review, and sharing this episode with others. Thank you.

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